In a special interview with Organiser’s Correspondent Nishant Kumar Azad in Kerala’s Pathanamthitta, Bishop Geevarghese Mar Yulios, metropolitan bishop of Kunnamkulam Diocese of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church and the president of National Council of Churches in India addressed a spectrum of topics, touching on the concerns regarding the Modi Government, minority communities under BJP rule, the issue of ‘Love Jihad’ and more. Excerpts:
India is witnessing general election and Kerala will poll in the second phase. What do you have to say to say about this democratic process?
As the President of the National Council of Churches and as a proud citizen of India, I extend my best wishes for the upcoming Indian parliamentary elections, which stand as the largest electoral process in world history. It’s a moment of pride for us, as we continue to uphold and champion our democratic values even after more than 70 years of being a republic. Let us all endeavour to support and celebrate the integrity of our electoral system.
Allegations from the Opposition, certain segments of society, and Western nations suggest that under PM Modi’s leadership, democracy and the constitution are under threat. How do you perceive these claims?
Well, it’s common for the ruling and opposition parties to often take opposing stances. It’s a natural dynamic. However, it’s crucial to introspect: are our actions driven by genuine concern for the nation, or by personal agendas and egos? We must ensure that our actions uphold the sanctity of democracy, which is the cornerstone of our nation.
When we refer to India as Bharat Mata, the mother of democracy, we must consider how our actions may be harming her. We’re in the 21st century, where global challenges abound. While there are issues in various parts of the world, it’s notable that much attention is directed towards India. Yet, as Indians, we understand how to navigate the complexities of our democracy. We don’t require lectures from other nations, including the likes of America or China, whose own credentials may be questioned. There are many countries where there are no democracy at all and they are barking at us. As an independent nation, we are capable of managing our affairs without external interference.
Over the past decade, there have been numerous media reports and claims from Western countries suggesting that religious freedom is under threat in India. What are your thoughts on this?
Well, there are occasional issues, but it’s unfair to blame Modi for everything. During election periods, social media often circulates content portraying Christians and minorities as endangered, but many of these incidents are actually from years ago or even deepfake creations.
So, you believe there’s a concerted effort to destabilise society?
Yes, indeed. There is a deliberate attempt to instill fear, suggesting that Christians and minorities are endangered under this government. It’s essential to recognise that India is a secular nation, and our beliefs shouldn’t be manipulated for political gain by external entities.
Since we are in Kerala, let’s address some local concerns. There is a noticeable trend of migration, and the state is grappling with an employment crisis. Kerala has become reliant on remittances from foreign countries. What are your thoughts on this?
Migration is indeed a reality here, and job scarcity is a pressing issue. Many are opting to seek employment abroad. During my recent visit to Ireland, I observed a significant Malayali presence, and this is a pattern seen in countries like Malaysia, Singapore, the Gulf, and the US as well. People are going overseas in search of livelihoods. It’s imperative for the government to prioritise creating more job opportunities domestically.
It Iis unfair to blame Modi for everything. During eelction perios, social media often circulates content porataying christains and minorities as endangered
Love jihad has become a burning issue in Kerala, with Hindu and Christian girls reportedly being targeted. How do you perceive this problem?
Firstly, it is important to define what exactly constitutes love jihad. Originally, the term ‘jihad’ referred to when you aggressively do anything with the attitude to achieve goodness with devotion within a faith system. However, it has now taken on negative connotations, particularly when associated with a specific religion. While it is said that individuals from certain religious backgrounds are enticing girls from other religions, it’s crucial to recognise that it’s the responsibility of families to monitor their children’s activities. But, there is a reality to the phenomenon to some extent, and it is not good for a secular society.
You have provided a positive interpretation of the term ‘jihad’, but what about the atrocities committed in its name across the world?
See, religion is often politicised and weaponised by political parties, leading to contradictions and the distortion of positive concepts like jihad. Each religion tends to blame the other, creating further divisions.
But I pray to the people to think little high on this issue. I want to quote Vivekananda, he said that your religion should help you in becoming a good person and becoming a good human being. Nobody will ask you that are you a Hindu, Muslim or a Christian. But, the basic question is, are you a good human being? How much you are able to help others and how much you are able to pray “Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu”.
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